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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    01:31:55 AM »
Fannie/Freddie - The Game Has Changed. ENRON on Steriods

Posted on September 7th, 2008 in Uncategorized

I don’t have time to write this up right now but I urge all of you to read this.  Every word.  Right now. This entire Fannie/Freddie story is not what it seems. It not a ‘bailout’ by the Gov’t trying to be proactive and get ahead of a failure. These are already the largest corporate failures in history due outright fraud.  These two companies and out of touch regulators have put every US tax payer and perhaps the US credit rating itelf in jeapordy. Deloitte and Morgan Stanley busted them. The criminality is something for a feature film.

I will entice you by leading in with ‘Fannie Mae did not count a loan ‘delinquent until the borrower was TWO YEARS LATE.’  Most banks consider a borrower delinquent after 90-days.  We also learned that Fannie guarantees $400 billion and Freddie $800 billion in Alt-A and Subprime.  That’s almost 20% of all their holdings.  Given how poorly private labeled Alt-A and Subprime are performing and how the GSE’s hid defaults and foreclosures, the losses must be multi-hundred billion dollar staggering.

This is the largest fraud story in the world’s history.  This makes ENRON look like a shoplifting.  When you are done reading, think again about the $5.2 trillion in retroactive MBS guarantees that they are thinking about putting on the tax payer and how much of that really may be bad paper.

Fannie lied and cheated for years. Several years ago they kicked out the old CEO’s and the new ones appear to be even more crooked.  Hat-tip Gretchen Morganson.  -Best Mr Mortgage


Source: http://mrmortgage.ml-implode.com/2008/09/07/fanniefreddie-the-game-has-changed-enron-on-steriods/
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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    01:34:56 AM »
i wonder if it's going to be another one of those sundays where cnbc starts market coverage early as they wait for the asian markets reaction The cow
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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    03:22:23 AM »
 July 14 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. Treasury Department's plan to shore up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is an ``unmitigated disaster'' and the largest U.S. mortgage lenders are ``basically insolvent,'' according to investor Jim Rogers.

Taxpayers will be saddled with debt if Congress approves U.S. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's request for the authority to buy unlimited stakes in and lend to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Rogers said in a Bloomberg Television interview. Rogers is betting that Fannie Mae shares will keep tumbling.

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. analyst Daniel Zimmerman said the mortgage finance companies' shares may fall another 35 percent and lowered his share-price estimate for Fannie Mae to $7 from $18 and for Freddie Mac to $5 from $17. Freddie Mac fell 64 cents, or 8.3 percent, to $7.11 in New York Stock Exchange trading, while Fannie Mae fell 52 cents, or 5.1 percent, to $9.73.

``I don't know where these guys get the audacity to take our money, taxpayer money, and buy stock in Fannie Mae,'' Rogers, 65, said in an interview from Singapore. ``So we're going to bail out everybody else in the world. And it ruins the Federal Reserve's balance sheet and it makes the dollar more vulnerable and it increases inflation.''

The chairman of Rogers Holdings, who in April 2006 correctly predicted oil would reach $100 a barrel and gold $1,000 an ounce, also said the commodities bull market has a ``long way to go'' and advised buying agricultural commodities.

`Solvency Crisis'

Rogers, a former partner of hedge fund manager George Soros, predicted the start of the commodities rally in 1999 and started buying Chinese stocks in the same year. He traveled the world by motorcycle and car in the 1990s researching investment ideas for his books, which include ``Adventure Capitalist'' and ``Hot Commodities.''

Billionaire investor Soros said today that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac face a ``solvency crisis,'' not a liquidity one, and that their troubles won't be the last financial disruption, Reuters reported.

``This is a very serious financial crisis and it is the most serious financial crisis of our lifetime,'' Soros told Reuters in a telephone interview. ``It is an idle dream to think that you could have this kind of crisis without the real economy being affected.''

`Going Bankrupt'

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac each surged more than 20 percent in pre-market trading today after Paulson moved to stem a collapse in confidence in the two companies that purchase or finance almost half of the $12 trillion in U.S. home loans.

Fannie Mae's market value is now about $10 billion, down from $38.9 billion at the end of 2007. Freddie Mac's market value has shrunk to about $5 billion from $22 billion at the end of last year.

``These companies were going to go bankrupt if they hadn't stepped in to do something, and they should've gone bankrupt with all of the mistakes they've made,'' Rogers said. ``What's going to happen when you Band-Aid and put some Band-Aids on it for another year or two or three? What's going to happen three years from now when the situation's much, much, much worse?''

Paulson's proposal, which the Treasury anticipates will be incorporated into an existing congressional bill and approved this week, signals a shift toward an explicit guarantee of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debt.

The Federal Reserve separately authorized the firms to borrow directly from the central bank.

`The Right Thing'

Anyone who says the mortgage-finance companies should be left to fail is ``silly,'' hedge fund manager Barton Biggs said in an interview on Bloomberg Television from New York.

``Fannie and Freddie are way too big and way too big a part of the mortgage system and really the American way of life to say `Just let them go bankrupt,''' said Biggs, a former Morgan Stanley strategist who now runs the hedge fund Traxis Partners LLC. ``The Treasury, in my view, is doing the right thing.''

Washington-based Fannie Mae slid 45 percent last week, while McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac sank 47 percent on concern they may require a bailout that would wipe out shareholders.

Former St. Louis Federal Reserve President William Poole last week said in an interview that Freddie Mac is technically insolvent under fair value accounting, which measure a company's net worth if it had to liquidate all its assets to repay liabilities. Poole said Fannie Mae may also become insolvent this quarter.

Rogers said he had not covered his so-called short positions in Fannie Mae and would increase his bet if it were to rally. Short sellers borrow stock and then sell it in an effort to profit by repurchasing the securities later at a lower price and returning them to the holder.

The U.S. economy is in a recession, possibly the worst since World War II, Rogers said.

``They're ruining what has been one of the greatest economies in the world,'' Rogers said. Bernanke and Paulson ``are bailing out their friends on Wall Street but there are 300 million Americans that are going to have to pay for this.''


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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    12:26:00 PM »

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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    12:39:38 PM »
 U.S. announces takeover of Fannie and Freddie
By Edmund L. Andrews
Sunday, September 7, 2008

WASHINGTON: The U.S. Treasury Department on Sunday seized control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the giant quasi-public mortgage finance companies, and announced a four-part rescue plan that includes an open-ended guarantee to provide as much capital as they need to stave off insolvency.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson Jr. also announced Sunday morning that he had dismissed the chief executives of both companies and replaced them with two long-time financial executives. Herbert Allison, currently chairman of TIAA-CREF, a pension fund for teachers, will take over Fannie Mae and replace the chief executive, Daniel Mudd. David Moffett, currently a senior adviser at Carlyle Group, one of the country's biggest private equity firms, will replace Richard Syron as chief executive of Freddie Mac.

"Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are so large and so interwoven in our financial system that a failure of either of them would cause great turmoil in our financial markets here at home and around the globe," Paulson said. "This turmoil would directly and negatively impact household wealth: from family budgets, to home values, to savings for college and retirement. A failure would affect the ability of Americans to get home loans, auto loans and other consumer credit and business finance. And a failure would be harmful to economic growth and job creation."

Paulson refused to say how much capital the government might eventually have to provide, or what the ultimate cost to taxpayers might be.

The companies are likely to need tens of billions of dollars over the next year, but the ultimate cost to taxpayers will largely depend on how and how fast the housing and mortgage markets recover from the current crisis.

Paulson's plan begins with a pledge to provide extra cash by buying up a new series of preferred shares that would offer dividends and be senior to both the existing preferred shares and the common stock that investors around the world already hold.

The two companies would be allowed to "modestly increase" the size of their existing investment portfolios until the end of 2009, which means they will be allowed to use some of their new taxpayer-supplied capital to buy up and hold new mortgages in investment portfolios.

But as an indication of Paulson's intention to wind down the companies, the Treasury plan states that they must shrink their portfolios by 10 percent a year until they each total $250 billion. They now hold more than $700 billion each.

That covenant in the agreement responds to many in the Bush administration and in the private sector who had argued for years that Fannie and Freddie posed "systemic risks" to the entire economy because they had acquired more than $5 trillion in assets with only the thinnest of capital cushions to shield them from losses.

Treasury officials had little choice. With the credit markets still in a tailspin and investors deeply reluctant to buy up mortgages with even a hint of risk, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac currently guarantee about 70 percent of all new home loans, according to James Lockhart, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency.

Paulson said the Treasury Department would provide as much money as needed to keep the companies' capital reserves from falling below the levels that would trigger rules that automatically put them into receivership.

In addition, the Treasury Department will create a "Secured Lending Credit Facility," a back-up source of borrowing for the companies in the event they cannot borrow enough money on the open market to finance their main business of buying mortgages and re-selling them as pools of mortgage-backed securities.

The Treasury Department will also buy up billions of dollars in Fannie and Freddie mortgage securities on the open market. This move is likely to make it much easier for the companies to finance somewhat riskier loans.

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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    12:51:19 PM »

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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    01:26:13 PM »
if I ran my household like these guys ran their businesses, I'd be living under a bridge right now..


and once again, it's up to the taxpayers to foot the bill..


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Re: Fannie/Freddie Chatter - Something Big is Brewing
« Sep 07, 2008    04:56:06 PM »
imagine that, all these years of being irresponsible and then they double down the bet and lose it all again in 1 weekend The cow
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