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Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    02:23:53 PM »
Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines: analyst
1 hr 44 mins ago

(Reuters) – The U.S. credit-card industry may pull back well over $2 trillion of lines over the next 18 months due to risk aversion and regulatory changes, leading to sharp declines in consumer spending, prominent banking analyst Meredith Whitney said.

The credit card is the second key source of consumer liquidity, the first being jobs, the Oppenheimer & Co analyst noted.

"In other words, we expect available consumer liquidity in the form of credit-card lines to decline by 45 percent."

Bank of America Corp (BAC.N), Citigroup Inc (C.N) and JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N) represent over half of the estimated U.S. card outstandings as of September 30, and each company has discussed reducing card exposure or slowing growth, Whitney said.

Closing millions of accounts, cutting credit lines and raising interest rates are just some of the moves credit card issuers are using to try to inoculate themselves from a tsunami of expected consumer defaults.

A consolidated U.S. lending market that is pulling back on credit is also posing a risk to the overall consumer liquidity, Whitney said.

Mortgages and credit cards are now dominated by five players who are all pulling back liquidity, making reductions in consumer liquidity seem unavoidable, she said.

"We are now beginning to see evidence of broad-based declines in overall consumer liquidity."

"Already, we have witnessed the entire mortgage market hit a wall, and we believe it will, for the first time ever, show actual shrinkage over the next few months," she wrote.

The credit card market will be 18 months behind the mortgage market and will begin to shrink by mid-2010, Whitney said.

Whitney also expects home prices to continue falling another 20 percent hurt by lower liquidity. They are down 23 percent from their peak, she said.

"In a country that offers hundreds of cereal and soda pop choices, the banking industry has become one that offers very few choices," Whitney wrote in a note dated November 30.

She also said credit lines to consumers through home equity and credit cards had been cut back from the second-quarter levels.

"Pulling credit when job losses are increasing by over 50 percent year-over-year in most key states is a dangerous and unprecedented combination, in our view," the analyst said.

Most of the solutions to the situation involve government intervention, and all of them require more dilutive capital to existing lenders, she said.

"Accordingly, we continue to be cautious on our outlook on US banks."

SUGGESTIONS

In a column in the Financial Times, Whitney suggested four adoptable changes to make a difference.

The first would be to re-regionalize lending, which has gone from "knowing your customer" or local lending, to relying on what have proven to be unreliable FICO credit scores and centralized underwriting, due to the nationwide consolidation since the early 1990s, she wrote in the column.

Expanding the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp's guarantee for bank debt will also help as the banks need to know they can access reasonably priced credit for an extended period to continue to extend new credit lines, she wrote in the column.

Whitney also advised delaying the introduction of new accounting rules, which would bring off-balance-sheet assets back on balance sheet, until 2011 or 2012, as the primary assets that will come back are credit card loans.

Whitney suggested amending the proposal on Unfair and Deceptive Lending Practices that is set to be adopted in 2010, saying restricting lenders' ability to reprice an unsecured loan will cause them to stop lending or to lend less.

(Reporting by Neha Singh and Amiteshwar Singh in Bangalore; Editing by Vinu Pilakkott, Jarshad Kakkrakandy)


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081201/bs_nm/us_finance_research_oppenheimer
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    03:14:57 PM »


i have never missed a payment, only once about twenty+  years ago carried a balance for one month, had the same card since college and the frakkers raised my interest rate to 29.90%

how about them apples? The cow
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    05:36:32 PM »


i have never missed a payment, only once about twenty+  years ago carried a balance for one month, had the same card since college and the frakkers raised my interest rate to 29.90%

how about them apples? The cow

i know the feeling.

 i got one card that seems to be making the due date two days less every month.
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    09:24:39 PM »
I am afraid Chase will cut my credit line and up my minimum payments..they intend to do that to those who carry promotional
balances for over two years..

that would be me..yikes..I cross my fingers here..
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    09:42:54 PM »
i watched the market fall today
i listened to all the experts
i was convinced we are entering the depression stage

i took a nap

they had a new panel of guests on

they convinced me everything is going to be ok except for 98% of the people

the other 2% are going to be just fine

the ones that matter

they realy believe that this whole mess is caused by irresponsible consumers.

not thieves , greed and over indulgence by govcorp.
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    10:16:19 PM »


i am exhausted, that even though you get 8 hours of sleep, you're still exhausted exhausted

but I will dig alittle deeper and get everybody through this month with a modicum of peace, enjoyment, and the pursuit of happiness

my news intake during the next four weeks will be limited to what I can digest in an hour or so



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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    10:41:53 PM »
take care of yourself also.

i'm trying to approach the future 1 day at a time. when ever i try to figure out what's going to happen in advance i start to make myself feel sick.

these are uncertain times for sure.
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    11:06:52 PM »


we go all the way to the nearest big city today to see the specialist and when we get there all appointments have been cancelled.  I said, "why didn't you call?"


"I don't know.  I must have missed you.  I called everyone else. Sorry..."

totally wasted afternoon


and with the rescheduling the week before christmas, doc appts each day --ugh

on the way, going passed the port:
the port lots were full of new cars and the spill over lots were 80% full.

I only have time to watch what is happening.  I don't have the energy or the time to try to predict.  My new philosophy is to get through this as best as possible, do my job, get through the holidays, stockup when I can, if I see something I really need buy it now. otherwise, I will get by with what I got

find the correct zen attitude

hunkerdown, buckle up, cuz at this point that's about all we can do

come january there will be time to reassess
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    11:28:36 PM »
i really wish i could find a way to earn a living here at home.
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    11:31:05 PM »


can you write code?
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    11:42:46 PM »


can you write code?

 not really.
 i can figure it out a little and then google what it is i want to do and find the right code that way.

  i hack at php and html
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Re: Credit-card industry may cut $2 trillion lines:
« Dec 01, 2008    11:53:33 PM »


maybe you can run drummie's website
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