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This could be the real Deal! Swine Flu Mexico
« Apr 24, 2009    01:27:30 PM »
MEXICO CITY -- Mexico City closed schools across the metropolis of 20 million Friday after at least 16 people died and more than 900 others fell ill from what health officials suspect is a new strain of swine flu. World health officials worried that it could mark the start of a flu pandemic.

The World Health Organization in Geneva, Switzerland said at least 57 have died in the outbreak, although it wasn't yet clear if this larger number of deaths was due to swine flu.

"We are very, very concerned," said Thomas Abraham, a spokesman for the agency. "We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human." If international spread is confirmed, that meets WHO's criteria for raising the pandemic alert level, he added.

Mr. Abraham said WHO on Friday raised their internal alert system, allowing them to divert more money and personnel to dealing with the outbreak. "It's all hands on deck at the moment," Mr. Abraham said.

Mexico's Health Secretary, Jose Cordova, said 16 of the deaths have been confirmed to have been caused by the new strain, through testing at the government's laboratories. Samples from 44 other people who died were still being tested. The health department put the total number of people sickened at around 943 nationwide.

Mr. Cordova said samples were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Ga., to determine whether it's the same virus infecting seven people in Texas and California. As of now, tests show the flu is a "new, different strain... that originally came from pigs."

"We certainly have 60 deaths that we can't be sure are from the same virus, but it is probable," Mr. Cordova told MVS radio in Mexico City.

Mr. Cordova described a chilling new strain that had killed only people among the normally less-vulnerable young and mid-adult age range. One possibility is that the most vulnerable segments of the population -- infants and the aged -- had been vaccinated against other strains, and that those vaccines may be providing some protection.

But Anne Schuchat of the CDC said "at this point, we do not have any confirmations of swine influenza in Mexico" of the kind that sickened seven California and Texas residents.

All seven U.S. victims recovered from a strain of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses in a way that researchers haven't seen before.

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« Apr 24, 2009    01:47:00 PM »
A flu outbreak in Mexico has killed at least 60 people and sickened nearly 1,000, health officials said Friday.
Swine flu is usually diagnosed only in pigs or people in regular contact with them.

Swine flu is usually diagnosed only in pigs or people in regular contact with them.

The outbreak has led health officials in the United States to suspect a connection with seven known cases of a novel swine flu infection in California and Texas.

As a precaution to avoid further contamination, schools and universities in Mexico City and the state of Mexico were closed Friday, said the national health secretary, Jose Angel Cordova Villalobos. He said the schools may remain closed for a while.

Fifty-seven people have died in Mexico City, the World Health Organization said Friday. Another three people have died elsewhere in Mexico, the agency said.

Sixteen of the deaths were from "a new type of influenza virus," Cordova said. Another 45 cases are "suspicious," he said.

Authorities are investigating the cases of 943 people suffering from a viral infection, the health minister said. The World Health Organization had said 800 people had fallen ill.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon canceled a trip Friday to northern Mexico so he could remain in Mexico City to monitor the situation, the state-run Notimex news agency reported. Calderon met with his Cabinet on Thursday night to discuss the outbreak.

In the United States, seven cases of a previously undetected strain of swine flu have been confirmed in humans, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said. All of the patients have recovered, officials said. None of the patients had direct contact with pigs.
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Five of the cases were found in California, and two in Texas, near San Antonio, said Dr. Anne Schuchat, the CDC's interim deputy director for science and public health program.

The Mexican samples will be tested at the centers based in Atlanta, Georgia, spokesman David Daigle told CNN by e-mail. The samples were taken from an affected area just north of Mexico City. Canada also is testing samples from Mexico "and has placed a travel alert for travel to Mexico," Daigle said.

The Public Health Agency of Canada issued a respiratory alert for Mexico on Wednesday, recommending that health providers "actively look for cases" in Canada, particularly in people who've returned from Mexico within the last two weeks.

An alert issued Friday by the International SOS medical and consulting company said more than 130 cases of a severe respiratory illness have been detected in south and central Mexico, some of which are due to influenza.

"Public health officials in Mexico began actively looking for cases of respiratory illness upon noticing that the seasonal peak of influenza extended into April, when cases usually decline in number," the medical alert said. "They found two outbreaks of illness -- one centered around Distrito Federal (Mexico City), involving about 120 cases with 13 deaths. The other is in San Luis Potosi, with 14 cases and four deaths."

Authorities also detected one death in Oaxaca, in the south, and two in Baja California Norte, near San Diego, California.

There was no indication why the International SOS tallies did not match the World Health Organization figures.

The majority of cases are occurring in adults between 25 and 44 years of age.

The CDC reported Tuesday that two California children in the San Diego area were infected with a virus called swine influenza A H1N1, whose combination of genes had not been seen before in flu viruses in humans or pigs.

The seven patients range from age 9 to 54, the CDC's Schuchat said. "The good news is that all seven of these patients have recovered," she said.

The first two cases were picked up through an influenza monitoring program, with stations in San Diego and El Paso, Texas. The program monitors strains and tries to detect new ones before they spread, the CDC said. Other cases emerged through routine and expanded surveillance.

The human influenza vaccine's ability to protect against the new swine flu strain is unknown, and studies are ongoing, Schuchat said. There is no danger of contracting the virus from eating pork products, she said.

The new virus has genes from North American swine and avian influenza; human influenza; and swine influenza normally found in Asia and Europe, said Nancy Cox, chief of the CDC's Influenza Division.

Swine flu is caused by type A influenza, according to the CDC. The virus does not normally infect humans, but cases have occurred among people, especially those with exposure to pigs.

There also have been cases of one person spreading swine flu to other people, the CDC said.

In 1988, in an apparent swine flu infection among pigs in Wisconsin, there also was evidence of a patient transmitting the virus to health workers, the CDC said.

Experts think coughing, sneezing and contaminated surfaces spread the infection among people. From December 2005 to February 2009, 12 human cases of swine flu were documented.

Symptoms include fever, lethargy, lack of appetite, coughing, runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, the CDC said.

The new strain of swine flu has resisted some antiviral drugs.
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The CDC is working with health officials in California and Texas and expects to find more cases, Schuchat said.

There's no need for alarm, but people at risk -- those who live in or have visited areas where patients live or have had contact with pigs -- should get tested if they notice symptoms, said Dr. William Short at the division of infectious diseases at Thomas Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

A pandemic is defined as: a new virus to which everybody is susceptible; the ability to readily spread from person to person; and wide geographic spread, said Dr. Jay Steinberg, an infectious disease specialist at Emory University Hospital Midtown in Atlanta. The new strain of swine flu meets only one of the criteria: novelty.

History indicates that flu pandemics tend to occur once every 20 years or so, so we're due for one, Steinberg said. However, it is not likely to be swine flu, he said.

"I can say with 100 percent confidence that a pandemic of a new flu strain will spread in humans," he said. "What I can't say is when it will occur."


Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/24/swine.flu/
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Re: This could be the real Deal! Swine Flu Mexico
« Apr 24, 2009    07:51:36 PM »
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I posted on the other thread I think..

I keep getting a different looking forum every time I post.. chuckle


anyways, on the other thread i posted a couple links to flu tracker forums..


Edit: one more link..


Source: http://www.fluwikie.com/uploads/Consequences/NewGuideOct7b.pdf
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Re: This could be the real Deal! Swine Flu Mexico
« Apr 25, 2009    01:12:52 AM »
Thanks for the link Flame The cow

www.fluwikie.com/uploads/Consequences/NewGuideOct7b.pdf

 And keep a close watch on the news please. Be ready.
 and take care of you and yours.

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« Apr 25, 2009    12:14:12 PM »
I don't trust the main stream media for accurate coverage of this outbreak. They seem to be behind the 8 ball. the swine flu has been 6 hours away from every major city in the USA for a week now.

 They are saying stuff like 8 cases in the US- This is hokem - it's 8 confirmed cases- There has to have been many more.

 They showed Obamas spokes man being asked if Obama had bee warned about the potential of infection from  his trip to Mexico. The spokesman said " Not that I am aware of ". That's either bullshit or deriliction of duty.

 They seem to be still downplaying to avoid a panic. Have some Faith will Ya?
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Re: This could be the real Deal! Swine Flu Mexico
« Apr 25, 2009    02:24:37 PM »
Obama is very good at avoiding any real leadership so far..why would we think this would be any different.


and wasn't he just down there here recently?

I cannot keep up with the news, it's coming in hot and heavy on all the forums..
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Re: This could be the real Deal! Swine Flu Mexico
« Apr 25, 2009    02:26:00 PM »
my son lives in Texas, I emailed him but he works two jobs and doesn't get a chance to sit at the computer, I may call later today and leave a message.
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Re: This could be the real Deal! Swine Flu Mexico
« Apr 25, 2009    03:43:07 PM »
i think in reality we should be at alert level 5 right now.

i've been out in the yard a lot today

but even at that, what little i've seen is proving to me why i am an anarchist.
pandemics have to be handled on a local level first

individuals only need information , then they can wisely respond.

large central governments tend to dole information out too slow and manage the information instead of giving it out raw and pure.



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Global health: International flu experts are trying to decide next steps at an emergency meeting on the swine flu outbreak called by Margaret Chan, director-general of the World Health Organization. Chan's decision to call the gathering marks the first time she has used a procedure created two years ago for such crises. At least 62 people in Mexico may have died from this new flu strain, which combines bird, pig and human viruses. The number of those sickened in the United States has risen to eight.
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« Apr 25, 2009    03:48:33 PM »
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An unusual new flu virus has spread widely and cannot be contained, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed on Saturday.

"It is clear that this is widespread. And that is why we have let you know that we cannot contain the spread of this virus," the CDC's Dr. Anne Schuchat told reporters on a conference call.

The strain of swine flu is suspected of killing as many as 68 people in Mexico and infecting more than 1,000 more, including eight in the United States. (Reporting by Maggie Fox, editing by Patricia Zengerle)
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« Apr 25, 2009    07:49:52 PM »
I'm worried about the strain mutating even further down the road here..
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